Should society let uninsured die?

  • Added:  5 years ago
  • CNN's Wolf Blitzer asks GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul what should happen to patients without health insurance.
  • Runtime: 1:49
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Comments: 400

  • Neil Murphy
    Neil Murphy 5 hours ago

    The answer to "Who pays?" is that WE all do, when the hypothetical man with a condition has to go to the emergency room because it's all the healthcare he can get.

  • Fabio Martich
    Fabio Martich 9 hours ago

    Yeesh...

  • Peter Smith
    Peter Smith 14 days ago

    All these comments on here insinuating that Ron Paul would leave someone to die because they aren't being taken care of by the government....HE NEVER SAID that listen to it again, he said that they NEVER turned anyone away, someone in society would step in (to include CHURCHES).

  • Derrick Chow
    Derrick Chow 1 month ago

    wearing a seatbeat is always essential to keep us alive if an accident happens, should we also deploy a special police force to forcefully make everyone to wear a seatbeat, how do we enforce that? we can't.

  • Derrick Chow
    Derrick Chow 1 month ago

    overpopulation is the world's number one problem and it is the result of government wasting valuable resources to keep those who should be long dead alive. Liberals advocate that we have less children to solve that problem, the simpler solution is just letting those who can't survive in this world die. If you can't get insurance I mean you don't have the most basic ability to survive in this world you should just die just like before civilization when a man can't gather enough to sustain then he dies, that is law of nature, Liberals love nature. This man's life is particularly done, he is most likely going to be disabled, can't take care of himself, be the burden of society of his family until he dies, if he wakes up and live til he is 60 it will be 30 years of suffering, let him die, surviving will be suffering for him. we wouldn't even do that to our dog, we put our dogs to sleep when they are facing certain death to lessen their limitless suffering. If I am this man I would be begging everyone in my coma that please just let me die.

  • zach Kensington
    zach Kensington 1 month ago

    He's a SHIT HEEL

  • Jai Khemani
    Jai Khemani 1 month ago

    ron paul didnt say yes at least

  • Jonathan Gunther
    Jonathan Gunther 1 month ago

    Sorry if you don't use your freedom to get healthcRe in a free society it's your fault. But you won't get turned away all because you don't have healthcare.

    • Ace Diamonds
      Ace Diamonds 1 month ago

      and thats the problem with healthcare, people getting healthcare when they cant afford it. those people go into debt and the hospitals arent paid for their work, raising prices for everyone else.
      plus people may have the freedom of healthcare but not health insurance. people with pre-existing conditions are just denied health insurance because they are too expensive to cover.


    • Jonathan Gunther
      Jonathan Gunther 1 month ago

      Of course hospitals are gonna take care of you and society will not let you die.


  • Baba Yetu
    Baba Yetu 1 month ago

    liberal autists spazzing out in the comments. take responsibility of your own health, not my job to care for you.

    • Ace Diamonds
      Ace Diamonds 1 month ago

      right, and if people with pre-existing conditions wanted health insurance they wouldnt have gotten so damn sick. take responsibility and dont have a pre-existing condition.


  • Brandon Costner
    Brandon Costner 1 month ago

    $2-300 a month? Sign me up. Wtf

  • BuryingYoungTalent
    BuryingYoungTalent 2 months ago

    Ron Paul just absolutely destroyed Wolf Blitzer.

  • mcNogard
    mcNogard 3 months ago

    Republicans be like: "LET HIM DIE LET HIM DIE"

  • Stephane P
    Stephane P 3 months ago

    In some way, the US has still a mentality from the middle age... Even Cuba has a better health care than the us. Even if they rely less on state of the art technology... I feel sorry for you. You acte like you will live forever. And it take you to be forced to sell your house to cure a cancer to begin to think differently. I feel sorry for you. You have been taken in hostage by drug and insurrance company and you cheer them.

  • omegapointil
    omegapointil 3 months ago

    I'd have cracked some of those audience members.

  • FreeSpirit
    FreeSpirit 3 months ago

    Ron Paul's only argument is - you should get a better service at a lower cost if the market forces were working as they should , through competition !

    It's just like buying any other item in the market place - costs go down when there is competition.

    His point is that - because Govt is involved , things get inefficient and service is bad.

  • erhe etrherh
    erhe etrherh 3 months ago

    Ron Paul is a barbarian.

  • TehMorbidAtheist
    TehMorbidAtheist 4 months ago

    So churches have x-ray and MRI machines? and operating tables?
    awesome

  • Alex Delgado
    Alex Delgado 4 months ago

    Did the people just say "Yeah" when they asked if they should let him die

  • Gilfoyle
    Gilfoyle 4 months ago

    I think I just threw up. This crowd seriously just cheered?

    • Texas06Exige
      Texas06Exige 4 months ago

      Do you understand what they were cheering for? Was it for death?


  • Matthew Craker
    Matthew Craker 5 months ago

    I felt physically ill when the crowd cheered at letting him die

    • Matthew Craker
      Matthew Craker 4 months ago

      Texas06Exige that conservatives, a group of people preserving "family values" would actually condone the death of someone just in support of his decisions in life bringing him to that conclusion. Too bad, that's the way it goes, but it's for the greater good. It would be MUCH more wrong to perform the wicked act of taxing the people a little more to guarantee that everyone ca fucking live. Absolutely sickening and heartless


    • Texas06Exige
      Texas06Exige 4 months ago

      What made you disgusted about it?


  • Anon1984 Dude
    Anon1984 Dude 7 months ago

    Hah.. wolf blitzer is such a cuck

  • Richard Underwood
    Richard Underwood 7 months ago

    Government is the reason cost are so high. We need a true freemarket in healthcare, not more government.

    • Pumpkin Rot
      Pumpkin Rot 4 months ago

      lol


    • Richard Donato
      Richard Donato 6 months ago

      Healthcare companies are the biggest reason. How many policies do you have to skim to pay for a private corporate jet or two? Healthcare companies are middle men. What do you need them for. They don't have doctors, nurses or medical facilities. They only exist to skim policies.


    • Richard Underwood
      Richard Underwood 6 months ago

      Playitalready If we abolish the income tax most employers would instead pay in higher wages, most people are attracted to jobs based on pay, benefits like healthcare and pensions are a after thought to most, it would also be easier for the employer to give higher wages instead of looking for a insurance plan.


    • Richard Underwood
      Richard Underwood 6 months ago

      Playitalready Also ever I'd insurance companies would be attracted to states with the least regulations competition would promote good practices, nobody wants to by covered by a insurance company with a bad reputation. About the kid with cancer, that's a very unlikely what if situation, insurance would be much cheaper making it more likely the family would be covered and I'm the small chance there not covered their is St.Jude, assuming St.Jude would be unable to help they could still get treatment but go into debt, however overall prices would be so much lower than now the debt wouldn't be nearly as punishing.


    • Richard Underwood
      Richard Underwood 6 months ago

      Playitalready Just because some people pay more out of pocket under Obamacare that doesn't mean it's enough to make a difference, the vast majority of Americans still don't. There are some doctors in the country that don't take insurance at all yet they're prices are much lower because the customer is in charge, if that became the norm in the US (other then catastrophic events) prices would plummet. Also about state lines ever if it is a state issue it's still a failure of government non the less. I don't wanna get rid of all healthcare programs over night, we've breed a society of dependency so the right thing would be a long term transition period.


  • Bradshaw Strell
    Bradshaw Strell 9 months ago

    I just want to say in 2011 I fell in a coma from an accident that occurred in my sleep. I fell asleep on my arm, remained unmoved in my sleep, and subsequently suffered major organ shutdown through a process called rhabdomyolysis. This "hypothetical" person is me. I was an uninsured, 26 year-old cook, and if it were up to certain Libertarians and Tea Partiers, I should have been left to die.

    • Peter Smith
      Peter Smith 14 days ago

      All these comments on here insinuating that Ron Paul would leave someone to die because they aren't being taken care of by the government....HE NEVER SAID that listen to it again, he said that they NEVER turned anyone away, someone in society would step in (to include CHURCHES).


    • Playitalready
      Playitalready 6 months ago

      Get rid of the gov. totally if u want (yes, they are bad in some ways
      and i am not a liberal) but the GREED has out done things. too many
      people in the medical industry including hospitals do price jacking
      WAAAAAAAAAY beyond cost, insurance companies try to maximize profit and
      minimize even valid claims and create complex paperwork and costs etc.
      while spiritual charities, which is the real answer, are lacking.

      In USA, if you're parents die to some unfortunate reason and you were
      born with a pre existing conditions that no insurance company or charity
      is able/willing to cover, liberals wanna put that cost on others
      through force of government, while most conservatives and libertarians
      at most (might) donate so little that you end up dying a slow painful
      death. Side note: Disclosure of hospital prices so people can shop around would require FORCE from the gov. and they don't want it.
      I think none of the people i stated in this comment knows what real
      Dharma even means. Have fun ignoring or trolling etc. my comment since
      my notifications are broken anyway.


    • orangefield1
      orangefield1 9 months ago

      why didn't you have a major medical policy? also, they say taxation is collected by guns, firearms, battering rams, tasers, and dogs at the door to collect taxes, why should use violence to collect money from people to give to you? why is violence utilized as method to collect money, and they just replace the word theft/assault/force, with good sounding, short syllabic words like taxes,


  • Scottf929
    Scottf929 9 months ago

    The churches. That's unbelievable. And alternative healthcare for people with cancer...

    • orangefield1
      orangefield1 9 months ago

      its called St Jude Hospital, run by all donations,


  • calonstanni
    calonstanni 9 months ago

    "the churches took care of them." unbelievable. yeah, let's make people turn to religious overlords in times of crisis. welcome back to the middle ages. ack.

  • Kurt Gödel
    Kurt Gödel 9 months ago

    Even today the uninsured don't die. They just pay a huge bill.

    • El Pote de Near
      El Pote de Near 4 months ago

      But without the concept of government assurance, the use of a federal credit, and the social security then they wouldn't be able to assure that those people will be able to pay the bill so they would just throw them off to the street.


    • Richard Underwood
      Richard Underwood 7 months ago

      Juan Primos Yes and in a free market system there would be less uninsured and the prices would be so much lower than today the few people who are without insurance would have much less debt.


  • Jonathan Lynch
    Jonathan Lynch 9 months ago

    Whether or not you support universal health care, we should all acknowledge that it is perfectly possible for a society to use tax money to do this successfully. It is done in numerous other countries. Canada, for example, has both better health outcomes and higher user satisfaction than the U.S.

    Whenever someone says it cannot work, they are simply ignoring the facts from countries like Germany, Switzerland, and Canada. If people are opposed to universal healthcare on principle, they should be honest about their reasons, not claim that it cannot work.

    • Dario Monsta
      Dario Monsta 6 months ago

      Lmao I'm from Canada are you fucking insane it's trash here it took me 6 hour to get me checked by the doctor because I had bronchitis. You will be responsible for the bankruptcy of your own country.


    • Jonathan Lynch
      Jonathan Lynch 6 months ago

      Can anyone provide a real world example where everyone is taken care of medically without taxation? I think it does not exist.


    • Richard Donato
      Richard Donato 6 months ago

      Everyone is taken care of with no taxation? That's a fantasy. Nothing is free.


    • Richard Underwood
      Richard Underwood 7 months ago

      Jonathan Lynch I'm against Single Payer and support free market healthcare for this reason. Would you prefer a system where everyone is taken care of but taxation is required, or a system where everyone is taken care of and requires no taxation?


  • You'renotthebossofmeyoutube

    despicable

    • Oliver
      Oliver 5 months ago

      yawn


    • Richard Underwood
      Richard Underwood 7 months ago

      You'renotthebossofmeyoutube Says the person who doesn't understand economics.


  • dominik cruz will dethrone conor

    what is wrong with those freaks screamng "yea" when he asked should society just let him die

  • dominik cruz will dethrone conor

    the best thing i heard in that scary talk was competition in health care like in business thats sounds like a great idea because then costs go down and service goes up I hope one day that would happen

  • Livid
    Livid 11 months ago

    Ron Paul didn't say that they should die, the audience did. He made some good points.

    • Dustin Broshous
      Dustin Broshous 8 months ago

      Why were you uninsured?


    • Bradshaw Strell
      Bradshaw Strell 9 months ago

      No he didn't. I just want to say in 2011 I fell in a coma from an accident that occurred in my sleep. I fell asleep on my arm, remained unmoved in my sleep, and subsequently suffered major organ shutdown through a process called rhabdomyolysis. This "hypothetical" person is me. I was an uninsured, 26 year-old cook, and if it were up to certain Libertarians and Tea Partiers, I should have been left to die.


    • dominik cruz will dethrone conor
      dominik cruz will dethrone conor 10 months ago

      ooo good haha he did. i like Ron Paul but i dont think i fully understood what he said there


  • TheTinyTimmyTimTim
    TheTinyTimmyTimTim 11 months ago

    See I agree with ron paul on everything EXCEPT this. At least he's consistent. The issue is even a child can see through how awfully short sighted libertarianism is.

  • L1nkn1vy
    L1nkn1vy 1 year ago

    Ron Paul looks like a fucking villain, too

  • Libertarian Ish
    Libertarian Ish 1 year ago

    Stop Bashing Ron Paul!!! Fucking Communists...

  • CrypticSlayer
    CrypticSlayer 1 year ago

    So basically ,Ron Paul healthcare plan is 'dont get sick. If you do,then fuck off and die' .

    • Bradshaw Strell
      Bradshaw Strell 9 months ago

      Thank you! I just want to say in 2011 I fell in a coma from an accident that occurred in my sleep. I fell asleep on my arm, remained unmoved in my sleep, and subsequently suffered major organ shutdown through a process called rhabdomyolysis. This "hypothetical" person is me. I was an uninsured, 26 year-old cook, and if it were up to certain Libertarians and Tea Partiers, I should have been left to die.


    • Jane Mcape
      Jane Mcape 1 year ago

      +CrypticSlayer nope, i would not because this will only mean we will fight more wars that are un-winnable and get more of our men and women killed.
      i would prefer if our bases outside of our country will return back to the united states so we can acually fund our troops here at home. I rather have the money spent on paying the debts back. because its the only reasonable thing to do at this point in time.


    • CrypticSlayer
      CrypticSlayer 1 year ago

      Nobody ,other than a splinter group,agrees with you and Paul's thought. The people want universal health care. And its not just him and you,but all the Republican Party.

      I bet you would rather have money spent on the military. Correct?


    • Jane Mcape
      Jane Mcape 1 year ago

      I have no clue where you got that from.
      For the argument sake; the question was a young,healthy man, who has a good job and makes a living.
      If he was to say I don't need healthcare and doesn't invest in it,then it's his problem not anyone else's
      How is that any way wrong


  • ragazziita
    ragazziita 1 year ago

    I bet the people yelling "YEAH!" are the kind of Christians who think everybody else from Muslims to atheists are immoral.

    • MrNeilM001
      MrNeilM001 9 hours ago

      KTR88 largely because that "Christian" is running your country.


    • lambdaofbacon
      lambdaofbacon 11 hours ago

      I'd gladly take Muhammad Ali over any member of the KKK.


    • KTR88
      KTR88 13 hours ago

      I'm probably more likely to get killed by a Christian than a Muslim.


    • zach Kensington
      zach Kensington 1 month ago

      Even the WORST Christian is better than the BEST Muslim


    • dominik cruz will dethrone conor
      dominik cruz will dethrone conor 10 months ago

      well Muslims yes


  • Sasim Hussain
    Sasim Hussain 1 year ago

    0:54 Never thought "I practice medicine" could become the new "I have black friends." LOL

    • mr5jr
      mr5jr 1 year ago

      You forgot the rest of it. The part about him NOT TURNING DOWN PATIENTS, and that they would NOT be left for dead. The audience cheering yes are the ones at fault in this video.


  • theBraveHeart1
    theBraveHeart1 1 year ago

    These bankrupt immorals call themselves christians

    • Richard Underwood
      Richard Underwood 7 months ago

      theBraveHeart1 Says the person who doesn't understand economics. Also its easy to be charitable when the money doesn't belong to you.


  • epiphany55
    epiphany55 1 year ago

    Yeh the guy with a severe, genetic respiratory problem should just go into a church to get the treatment he needs. Either that or lose what little income he has from working the only jobs that his medical condition allowed him to. You see you only have to use your imagination for a bit longer than 2 seconds to think of all the situations people can find themselves in through no fault of their own. And yes, people do make bad decisions, but there seems to almost be this relishing of people making mistakes paying in the most horrible way. If you get all tearily patriotic at the thought of someone (and maybe their family) suffering because of a bad decision I would question your ethics.

    • moonrice555
      moonrice555 9 months ago

      +epiphany55 "How about we start by cutting spending on the military industrial complex and other parasitic programs and pump that money into healthcare? "
      YES!!!!


    • epiphany55
      epiphany55 9 months ago

      +Jack Lan OK then, going by the fundamental laws of economics, we know that in order to afford something, such as healthcare, we must cut back spending on something else (assuming we all agree that printing money isn't the solution).

      How about we start by cutting spending on the military industrial complex and other parasitic programs and pump that money into healthcare? If we can afford corporate welfare, we can afford public welfare. If we can afford to bailout the banks, we can afford to bailout the people. If we can afford to pay interest to private banks, we can afford to pay interest to public banks.


    • Bradshaw Strell
      Bradshaw Strell 9 months ago

      Yall are human garbage.


    • Bradshaw Strell
      Bradshaw Strell 9 months ago

      I just want to say in 2011 I fell in a coma from an accident that occurred in my sleep. I fell asleep on my arm, remained unmoved in my sleep, and subsequently suffered major organ shutdown through a process called rhabdomyolysis. This "hypothetical" person is me. I was an uninsured, 26 year-old cook, and I worked 50 hours a week. At that time the price of private insurance was unaffordable. I would have had to choose between healthcare or rent and food.


  • 786sami786
    786sami786 1 year ago

    Why do people believe that government can fulfill this fantasy of providing healthcare for everyone? They can not. Ron Paul has the only reasonable and fair position. You're not entitled to healthcare. If you really want to get angry, then perhaps get angry if a sick man goes to a hospital and isn't treated for free. You shouldn't sacrifice your freedoms for this fantasy. Are you willing to let the government put a camera in every household for your safety? How far are you willing to go? Healthcare is not a government function.

    • Jack Lan
      Jack Lan 11 months ago

      +786sami786 you can't have both systems coexist because you would still have to pay for the people who choose to have the free healthcare. the same for education. even if you are home schooled your taxes are still funding public education.


    • Marten Dekker
      Marten Dekker 11 months ago

      ALL developed nations very USA had gov healthcare for all with no for profit insurance co's...at lower cost that Americans pay for only some people covered.


    • 786sami786
      786sami786 1 year ago

      +Albin Lundholm The principle is the same. The free market would provide a better educational system.


    • Albin Lundholm
      Albin Lundholm 1 year ago

      +786sami786 I'm not talking about college


    • 786sami786
      786sami786 1 year ago

      +Dark Prince No.


  • Jukka Penttinen
    Jukka Penttinen 1 year ago

    Barbarians.

  • Dakota
    Dakota 1 year ago

    Conservatives in America...

  • Christopher Saunders

    Translation: Being unable to afford healthcare is "freedom of choice." Also, dying is "taking responsibility" for poverty. I'm really sad that I live on the same planet as such moral derelicts.

    • Peter Smith
      Peter Smith 14 days ago

      All these comments on here insinuating that Ron Paul would leave someone to die because they aren't being taken care of by the government....HE NEVER SAID that listen to it again, he said that they NEVER turned anyone away, someone in society would step in (to include CHURCHES).


    • Jane Mcape
      Jane Mcape 1 year ago

      so just to save poverty you think we have to resort into more government spending when the government is initially bankrupt? so now the citizens has to pay for the people in poverty or they get fined, they have to live with low living standards? eventually moving down to poverty?


    • mr5jr
      mr5jr 1 year ago

      So you would rather force people to pay for the health care they can't afford? Dumb argument.


    • Emmon Chow
      Emmon Chow 1 year ago

      +Christopher Saunders (AllenbysEyes) Well, poverty is not a choice. The luck of the birth lottery already undermines the assumption that all individuals have the same freedoms and choices. However, I do see Ron Paul counterpoint to the churches and the community; but he did contradict himself.


    • Christopher Saunders
      Christopher Saunders 1 year ago

      I'm quite happy not to understand the ravings of sociopaths.


  • wyatt1153
    wyatt1153 1 year ago

    This wack job Paul is now doing infomercials about the end of America. Deport this asshole to Mars.

  • United States of Embarrassment

    What if the guy can't afford health care? Let him die? "YEAH! 'MURICA!"

    • Derrick Chow
      Derrick Chow 1 month ago

      let them die is the most basic law in nature, there was no healthcare before the dawn of civilization, i though it is the liberals who think we shouldn't meddle with nature with all their climate change bs.


    • izdatsumcp
      izdatsumcp 3 months ago

      He's not able to afford it because the the healthcare market isn't a free market. Get the government out and the prices will fall. And like Ron Paul said, they took care of people before Medicaid came in. You had charity. not welfare.

      @Playitalready
      'Greed' is fine, it's only when you have lobbying and the government guaranteeing insurance that the prices are too much to handle. If you have a free market, it's easy to keep prices down.

      Look at the two things government is always involved in: healthcare and education. Prices through the roof. Look at other things: TVs, computers, cars. Prices get lower and the product get better.

      The government is the problem, not business. If the government didn't interfere in things, businesses wouldn't lobby and they wouldn't get an uncompetitive advantage.


    • Playitalready
      Playitalready 6 months ago

      Get rid of the gov. totally if u want (yes, they are bad in some ways
      and i am not a liberal) but the GREED has out done things. too many
      people in the medical industry including hospitals do price jacking
      WAAAAAAAAAY beyond cost, insurance companies try to maximize profit and
      minimize even valid claims and create complex paperwork and costs etc.
      while spiritual charities, which is the real answer, are lacking.

      In USA, if you're parents die to some unfortunate reason and you were
      born with a pre existing conditions that no insurance company or charity
      is able/willing to cover, liberals wanna put that cost on others
      through force of government, while most conservatives and libertarians
      at most (might) donate so little that you end up dying a slow painful
      death. Side note: Disclosure of hospital prices so people can shop around would require FORCE from the gov. and they don't want it.
      I think none of the people i stated in this comment knows what real
      Dharma even means. Have fun ignoring or trolling etc. my comment since
      my notifications are broken anyway.


    • william sewell
      william sewell 1 year ago

      +sakor88 i love the shrug Ron gives at :38 seconds. no fucks were given.


    • sakor88
      sakor88 1 year ago

      +william sewell And in countries where there is no free health care people tend to live forever?


  • Anthony Cheek
    Anthony Cheek 1 year ago

    His medicaid argument isn't relevant anymore since there's more people alive then ever

  • jkraze3
    jkraze3 2 years ago

    Hell yeah. Any real doctor will honor their oath. Alternative medicines and drugs you can literally grown yourself like cannabis hemp will bring new ideas and competition. Some people will always expect others to pay for services for other people, but don't offer to pay for those other people themselves. Respect to the good doctors out there that help people everyday. I hope we see modern health and medicine market open up more so they can compete to the b.s. FDA approved drugs we see on TV with side affects worse than the symptoms.

  • Kwame
    Kwame 2 years ago

    I can't believe this actually happened!

  • Shakedown St.
    Shakedown St. 2 years ago

    Thank you Ron for having the courage from the beginning to stand for freedom. If somebody does not want healthcare why should we force them to have healthcare?

    • Shakedown St.
      Shakedown St. 1 year ago

      I've always liked Sanders, it's Hillary I'm afraid of.


    • Shakedown St.
      Shakedown St. 1 year ago

      +cristi1990an Oh I am voting Sanders now that Rand has dropped out of the race, lol.


    • cristi1990an
      cristi1990an 1 year ago

      +drummerben04 That's why you should vote for Sanders. To ditch Obamacare in favor of a normal system.


    • Shakedown St.
      Shakedown St. 1 year ago

      I'd love healthcare if it were taken out of my taxes instead of a monthly bill. not the case in America though. Obamacare won't cover any of my healthcare needs but sure I'd take it if it were out of my taxes. But yes, I am one of those that doesn't vaccinate and I have been fine for years. I don't have children right now.


    • cristi1990an
      cristi1990an 1 year ago

      +drummerben04 You need mental help. Are you one of those people who doesn't vaccinates themselves or their children?


  • flerper derper
    flerper derper 2 years ago

    This is disgusting.

    • Peter Smith
      Peter Smith 14 days ago

      All these comments on here insinuating that Ron Paul would leave someone to die because they aren't being taken care of by the government....HE NEVER SAID that listen to it again, he said that they NEVER turned anyone away, someone in society would step in (to include CHURCHES).


    • alfonso6588
      alfonso6588 1 year ago

      +HomeSkillenSLICE You said that free market doesn't work in the two things that are more intervened by the government in America: healthcare and the banks. There are more people in medicare and medicaid than there are people working in the private sector. There are about 120 million people in America using medicare and medicaid, and about 45% of spending in healthcare comes from the government (about 7% of GDP, which is the same that many countries with single-payer system pay). You call that a free market??? the extremely expensive american system is the result of combining a socialized demand with a private sector offer, and by doing that you just increase the price. Imagine it as if the government suddenly started paying for the food of everyone, but the food is still produced by private institutions, but people can go and get the amount of food they want because it's free (government pays for it). What happens is that the private companies will rise the price because they know that the price won't affect the people (because government pays for it) and won't have any incentives to provide a better service. Of course, all this is more complicated than my example, but it can give you an idea. Just think about it: why the price of healthcare has risen so much these years when the rest of products on the free market haven't??? The market just doesn't work that way. You don't see the price of apples or oranges rising so fast. If the price of healthcare does, it's obviously because the government is intervening on that.


      And about the banks: the banking system is not a free market system. What is the federal reserve? Is printing money out of thin air a free market thing to do? Manipulating interest rates is a thing of the free market? Are central banks a market organization? No, they are institutions that have the only power to print money, and that power is given by the government. It is a monopoly, and it's permitted by the government. If we went back to gold standard, and we let the market set the interest rate just like the price of any other good, we wouldn't have economic bubbles, as Hayek and Mises have explained.


    • CerberusMcBain
      CerberusMcBain 1 year ago

      +flerper derper Disgusting? THIS! IS! AMERICA!


    • marcus davenport
      marcus davenport 1 year ago

      You are the one who believes that we have a free market for healthcare. So we both know who is misinformed. Also I'd love to hear your explanation as to why Canada has admitted that their healthcare system is a failure and most European countries are trying to go privatized seeing that their healthcare is so much better than ours. If you don't fix the problem you'll forever try to push the blame on someone else. The problem is price gouging. No competition. That's not due to the free market it's due to government intervention and crazy patent laws and lobbyist that allow for monopolies.


  • Jay Gold
    Jay Gold 2 years ago

    These Republicans are sick pieces of garbage. Their mentality should be wiped off the face of the earth. Ron Paul is a wack job. Health care should be built into the society through the tax system like the rest of the world. Health care and education need to be part of the tax system and made available to everyone. Truly disgusting individuals above.

    • xTGat69
      xTGat69 1 month ago

      He didn't answer the question. IE We should let him beg for help and then die. His answer was pay for health insurance before you get sick otherwise find yourself in said situation. This isn't the 50's or the 70's, you can't go ask your neighbor or a church to help take care of you. In other-words, the answer was YES.


    • FreeSpirit
      FreeSpirit 3 months ago

      Jay Gold - you are wrong - Ron Paul did not say let the guy die. His only argument is that when Govt gets involved - the service only gets worse off !


    • Markus Feder
      Markus Feder 1 year ago

      +Jay Gold Ron Paul isn't garbage. I completely disagree with him, but at least I have to recognize that he is consequent and honest in is world view ("Everybody is responsible only for himself. I don't want to force anyone to do anything against his will, even if it's just paying taxes"). So his politics would be a disaster, but at léast he is not hypocritical and not nebulizing his views.


    • Tom Howard
      Tom Howard 1 year ago

      +wyatt1153 well thats where welfare gets put into consideration. because my welfare might mean getting the government OUT of my life. welfare is totally dependent on each individual person. people are all unique and require unique care different from your neighbor your relatives and friends. thats why government regulated education doesn't work because federal government programs like common core and no child left behind don't take into account the fact that all children are different with different learning requirements. The federal government can't put a standard on students. thats why you leave it to state or local communities or private schools. im fine with state run public college and schooling. but no federal plan that will generalize education with a system that limits the teaching style of the teacher and the learning style of the students.


    • wyatt1153
      wyatt1153 1 year ago

      +Tom Howard He"s not "following the Constitution". You need to read the article 1 section section 8 General Welfare clause of the Constitution. It's what Social Security and Medicare are based on. The Affordable Care Act also. It's been repeatedly upheld by the Supreme Court including recently by Justice John Roberts. Health care and education is a right in this country.


  • Aaron Richardson
    Aaron Richardson 2 years ago

    I do think there should be universal healthcare for people who make an inadequate amount of money per year. What that amount is I don't know. I'm sure we can come up with something reasonable as a country.

    • moonrice555
      moonrice555 11 months ago

      +Jack Lan Canada had universal health care and their taxes are not THAT horrendous.


    • Jack Lan
      Jack Lan 11 months ago

      Then donate your own fucking money instead of imposing your moral values on other people. I barely go to the doctors but when I do my copay is $10 while the rest are paid by my insurance. I agree our healthcare needs to be fixed but I would rather have what I currently have instead of paying high taxes. It's not fair that I occasionally go to the doctors and still have to pay the same amount as another person who goes to the doctors frequently.


    • moonrice555
      moonrice555 1 year ago

      +Aaron Richardson True. Everyone wants to get upset because there are people out there who are lazy and irresponsible and keep popping out kids they can't afford and they take advantage of the system. But let's don't forget there are also plenty of mentally ill people out there who simply can't function. They have a very hard time managing everyday life, much less getting and keeping a decent job. How can we expect those people to afford health insurance when it's nearly killing the average person?


  • Aaron Richardson
    Aaron Richardson 2 years ago

    That 30 year old hypothetical man with excellent health and a great job should have purchased health insurance; fucking idiot. We live in a dangerous and indifferent world where SHIT happens.

    • The Fantastic Five
      The Fantastic Five 1 year ago

      You mean health insurance that will often weasel it's way out of coverage when needed or demand huge copays?


    • moonrice555
      moonrice555 1 year ago

      +Aaron Richardson It was a bad example. What he SHOULD have asked Ron is What about the people who can't afford health care?


    • Rob Milliken
      Rob Milliken 1 year ago

      +Aaron Richardson Do we have to live in a dangerous and indifferent world, or do we have a chance to change it so it is a better one?


  • Garry Lafferty
    Garry Lafferty 2 years ago

    Paul saying you don't have by insurance it a choice so government will pay for ones who chose not to have health insurance.  Why should he get a free ride if he gets cancer. or in intensive care for a week after accident..  That's why there should be national healthcare were every one pays like Medicare. Its the only way to really lower cost just common sense.

  • chronicman06
    chronicman06 2 years ago

    The devil is a republican

  • william sewell
    william sewell 2 years ago

    Wolf just wanted him to say it. He wanted him to fall back on his stance.

  • william sewell
    william sewell 2 years ago

    Yes, let him die....make bad choices get bad results

    • funkyflights
      funkyflights 1 year ago

      +william sewell ....  I think we can both agree on that one...  :]


    • william sewell
      william sewell 1 year ago

      I dont care anymore. You are right, everyone should be able to afford healthcare.


    • funkyflights
      funkyflights 1 year ago

      +william sewell .... Yep , mandates are for the insurance companies benefit... 


    • william sewell
      william sewell 1 year ago

      +moonrice555​ He said there was no one dying in the streets. Idk, but you are right, we could just make healthcare affordable. Mandated healthcare doesnt do that, but whatever.


    • funkyflights
      funkyflights 1 year ago

      +william sewell ....  That was a classic... 


  • ilemakedonests
    ilemakedonests 2 years ago

    Fuck, blows my mind on how dumb Americans are. How can people agree with this fuck and applaud. So inhumane. 

    • mr5jr
      mr5jr 1 year ago

      He said NO. The audience said YES.


    • funkyflights
      funkyflights 1 year ago

      +Giulianno Ramirez ...   I think you would agree that money should not be in politics... These congressmen and women get paid VERY well so I think it's against our interest to have them receive perks from these corporate sponsors...  Truth be told, every member of congress should be wearing nascar outfits with all their corporate sponsors stuck on them...  


    • Giulianno Ramirez
      Giulianno Ramirez 1 year ago

      As long as its within the bounds of the constitution im fine with it. I'm not an anarchist, why is that so hard to understand lol With that being said, almost every single government regulation in this country was created to enhance cooperation and screw over the average American


    • funkyflights
      funkyflights 1 year ago

      +Giulianno Ramirez ....   That doesn't mean you allow corporations and banks to run wild and do whatever they want .... YOU have to have regulations and control ... You must have government that looks out for the people's best interest.... When you have insurance companies avoiding sick people, the very people that NEED the care it's a problem.. When you have big banks robbing the nation blind you HAVE to have government step in and control them ... The problem I have with right wingers is everyting  the government does is bad in their view.. EVEN when it's doing good...  It's all about balance 


    • Giulianno Ramirez
      Giulianno Ramirez 1 year ago

      You just made an excellent argument for why there shouldn't be an overbearing government. FYI libertarians don't support anarchy, they support a government within the Constitutional boundaries....please stop confusing Libertarianism with Anarchy, two very different things


  • tbizone2002
    tbizone2002 2 years ago

    In theory this sounds reasonable. But what about those people who don't have friends, attend a church, have transportaion or know where to find help? What is they are just poor and can't afford healthcare or born with consistant health needs? There are significant questions Paul has yet to address.

    • mr5jr
      mr5jr 1 year ago

      Then ask him and I guarantee he will give you a good answer.


    • moonrice555
      moonrice555 1 year ago

      +william sewell I don't know what that is.


    • william sewell
      william sewell 1 year ago

      +moonrice555​ the EU.


    • moonrice555
      moonrice555 1 year ago

      +GamerBeck "socialized healthcare doesn't work anyways, it just bankrupts the country"  Give us examples of those countries.


    • tbizone2002
      tbizone2002 1 year ago

      Also, in the same vein, A Civil Action is a great flick,  based on true events.


  • cyborganic99
    cyborganic99 3 years ago

    So essentially yes.

  • outbacktrek
    outbacktrek 3 years ago

    mediCare4ALL ... rightNow notLater republican NisonPlan makin insuranceCorporatism cannibalismProfits is ACA a compromised corporatism plan ... unlike socialSecurity or MediCare or Medicaid noProfiteerism... just medical insurance cannibalComplex to make money from suffering bankrupting working & poor families.

  • organiccorn
    organiccorn 3 years ago

    Conservatives always say the good hearts of citizens will take care of the poor and needy so we don't need government to do that. If they really mean it, citizens should put their money where their mouth is, instead of making token donations to a "get well fund" for Tracy just because she got cancer, pay your taxes and help Tracy get health insurance.

  • Jesse Haffner
    Jesse Haffner 3 years ago

    Our Gov also entirely designed and then constructed the nations Hiway system, then you got the Hoover Damn, and many other momentous creations that never ever would have been done if left up to the corrupt greed-based free-market! Compared to every single nation on earth in 1790, The US was certainly the furthest left, whether you want to accept that or not-that's ur choice. If we didn't have a Fed-Gov that was specifically created for the benefit of it's people, we wouldnt be the 1 super-power

  • Jesse Haffner
    Jesse Haffner 3 years ago

    Actually in the Constitution also created the 4th estate, which from the very beginning was almost completely subsidized by our Federal government. Plus in the constitution the US Postal Service was also founded and guess what, in order to move about the country they needed roads. The Articles of Confed established Post, but no roads, but in the Postal Clause in Article 1, section 8-it established postal roads but left it up to states, but then in 1838, they passed a law in order to do just that

  • cyper89
    cyper89 3 years ago

    He speeches about depending of yourself and be individual and then you expect the others to make donations and do everything for you?!! That's non sense

  • grubbymanz
    grubbymanz 3 years ago

    actually that's definitely not why the cost of healthcare is so high. Healthcare at the individual level reflects inelastic demand, when you need it you need it. You can't say no when you're unconscious, and drug companies and hospitals cost whatever they want. Medicare costs way less per person than private insurance. When governments or big groups of ppl bargain for big contracts healthcare costs go down. We spend as much in TAXES for healthcare as in countries that have universal healthcare!

  • shlockofgod
    shlockofgod 3 years ago

    If they do go broke they can't blame others on that unless they've been cheated in some way. What about the people who go broke because others needed healthcare they didn't bother paying for? What about those who lose their jobs because taxes were raised to pay for the irresponsible? What about responsible people who work hard to pay for their health insurance but have to work harder to pay for irresponsible idiots too?

  • Richard Donato
    Richard Donato 3 years ago

    He said the guy took the risk. That's what freedom is all about. Taking your own risk. He was saying "let him die".
    Worse, he was saying let the churches take care of him. Catholic Charities get's 80% of it's funding from the Government. So even then, the fantasy world of "keep government out" is a myth. It's not reality. It's like Republicans saying "Keep government hands off my Medicare". It's laughable.

  • Jimmy Rustler
    Jimmy Rustler 3 years ago

    he doesn't really say a god damn thing. talks much without saying a fucking thing. typical politician.

  • hundvalpen
    hundvalpen 4 years ago

    Well, at some point you gotta let people live their own lives and make their own choices. If you start telling people what to do, it never ends. In Sweden the left-party suggested making it a law for men to pee sitting down. They also want to ban cigarettes. They have among the world's highest taxes on alcohol. All of this, comes from a BIG government that always wants to dictate the terms how people should live their lives.

  • Jesse Haffner
    Jesse Haffner 4 years ago

    No matter where its applied capitalism just distorts the system an perverts it into somethin immoral. When the founding fathers created our gov they did so knowing that it was going to be the single most progressive an left-wing government in the world in 1787! They wer proud of the fact our gov was "Of, by, and FOR THE PEOPLE!" Our gov's 1 reason for existing is to help an provide for its citizens. Whether its environmental preservation, economic fairness, or caring for our health an well-being

  • Jesse Haffner
    Jesse Haffner 4 years ago

    This illistrates the complete fairy-tale that civil libertarians believe in, in situations like these they always say, "well it was that persons responsibility and if he he messed up well too bad," or they say this load of bullshit-"well haven't ya ever heard of neighbors helping eachother or like charities and churches." Are you serious? Charities, neighbors, friends, family, and churches-those are the places u should go for help with healthcare? That is just crazy!!!

  • Jesse Haffner
    Jesse Haffner 4 years ago

    Paul is utterly fuckin insane. Or he is just immoral-"We have gotten away from the concept of self-responsibility, and back in the 60's we wouldn't turn anyone away," -u wanna know why Ron, its cuz back then we didnt have any insurance back then! Healthcare insurance is the most useless and morally bankrupt practice that we have in our society. This is a perfect example of why free market capitalism only ensures corruption an pain. He didnt say let him die-he just avoided answering it altogether

    • orangefield1
      orangefield1 9 months ago

      thanks for using your cell phone, and computer, corporations created by capitalists, beautiful,
      also are you wearing jeans? its a product of levis, take off your pants, and give them to Karl Marx


  • WhitusFoggs
    WhitusFoggs 4 years ago

    Sorry but I can't afford to buy $300 health insurance a month. If the government forces me to buy it I won't even be able to meet my basic needs of shelter. I will be homeless with health insurance.

  • polarbarr21
    polarbarr21 4 years ago

    Ron Paul is always right.

  • dale3858
    dale3858 4 years ago

    100% of the health premiums for federal workers is paid for from the federal general fund, again paid for by poor people just as much as the rich. I have a friend who pays $150.00 a month for both him and his wife, they get $2000 back in free dental, do the math, they make $200.00, plus they get a good job as well. It's SICK...

    Everybody should have a RIGHT to good healthcare, it is a mystery to me why Americans can't see this fundamental need...We are terribly greedy people.

  • dale3858
    dale3858 4 years ago

    In my state, 97% of the health insurance premiums for state workers is paid for from the general fund, which is raised by state sales taxes, the biggest contributes to sales tax in my state is from the poor, from cigarettes, alcohol, junk food and gasoline. These same people at human services deny people the care they need.

  • dale3858
    dale3858 4 years ago

    The people Ron P was counting on getting him elected are the ones that want people to die, they don't want to help anyone, neither does Ron P. Letting filthy rich corporations get richer on the misery of others is WRONG.

    Everything is socialized, it just looks capitalistic. I don't have any kids yet I have to pay for kids to be educated via my real estate tax. My homeowners goes up every time there is a disaster. The more drunks that kill people in cars the higher my car insurance gets.

  • Fnagelsc f
    Fnagelsc f 4 years ago

    Ya! The church will pay! I'm pretty sure that what he said! The nuns will take care of him! just like in the 1800s!

  • shlockofgod
    shlockofgod 5 years ago

    "Which family, friends and church can pay amounts like $500.000 in costs for somebody who is seriously sick?"

    Would you voluntarily contribute towards the healthcare of the uninsured? If your answer is yes then you've solved the problem. If the answer is no what, right do you have to advocate forcing others to pay?

  • an andies
    an andies 5 years ago

    @JKwingfan Which family, friends and church can pay amounts like $500.000 in costs for somebody who is seriously sick? You, people like you and Ron Paul talk just BULLSHIT. And what if somebody doesn't have many (rich) friends and family? That's why in a civilized society health care is accessible to everybody and in the US it's not.

  • CelicasForEver
    CelicasForEver 5 years ago

    DEMOCRAT POWER!!!!!!

  • OnlyLauraWins
    OnlyLauraWins 5 years ago

    @skyeminer Slaves? Well, that's a bit exaggerated. It's just about not being selfish. If you can help someone else out because they clearly cannot do it themselves, you're their slave?
    By the way, if you put things the way that you did, you lose all humanity and sense of sympathy - This is a human being you're talking about, not a piece of meat, or a theoretical philosophical argument. A person. If you would let someone die because of the reasons you stated, I feel sad for you.

  • OnlyLauraWins
    OnlyLauraWins 5 years ago

    @VladtheEmailer Because they are not selfish and won't make the situation as complicated at that guy up there with the top comment (skyeminer). They all have Universal Healthcare - one for all, all for one. When you become selfish and "let the uninsured die" because they didn't contribute, I believe you lose your humanity.

  • Sam Jabbers
    Sam Jabbers 5 years ago

    @JKwingfan Operative word "should."

  • TheChertron
    TheChertron 5 years ago

    I agree with him, we have lost our morals in america. I'm not very religious, but the government and banks have become our savior. It's not about community and helping everyone out anymore, it's about money and big drug companies, that don't always supply the right treatment. We are actually in the perfect time in history to take care of each other physically and through self-education. It's easier to research and find the right treatment from a trusted doctor and healer today.

  • SOPHIA R.
    SOPHIA R. 5 years ago

    boooooo

  • tonyvstony7
    tonyvstony7 5 years ago

    @DragonFly122 Ok...Good comment. Sorry about the moron comment.

  • Jade
    Jade 5 years ago

    I like how Dr. Paul was going "no" when the teahadists were cheering "yeah" when asked if the person in question should die.

    Dr. Paul is a true libertarian while the baggers are not. The teahadists are a self serving group.

  • Jade
    Jade 5 years ago

    @tonyvstony7 and you are a douche canoe, don't you have tea party rally to go to? I'm sure you have a lot on your plate with your weight watchers meetings, GED classes, probation officer, chronic masturbatory problems and your upcoming appearance on the Steve Wilkos show.

  • tonyvstony7
    tonyvstony7 5 years ago

    @DragonFly122 No...I think it is because you are a moron who doesn't understand what he is saying and spends too much time watching cartoons than paying attention to what's really happening. Yeah. I think so.

  • Jade
    Jade 5 years ago

    @HilariousHyena Of course we should let the uninsured die, it's in the Bible.

    Thou shalt profit from the misery and misfortune of others and act with greed and envy in thy affairs I have chosen for you to prevail. Hezaciah 6:66

  • Jade
    Jade 5 years ago

    @tonyvstony7 If you found this comment offensive, it's because you're a teahadist.

  • tonyvstony7
    tonyvstony7 5 years ago

    @DragonFly122 What reality are you living in? Go back to watching cartoons. Or, instead, why don't you pick up a book. Your comment is offensive and wrong.

  • meatballllll
    meatballllll 5 years ago

    @docholly0115 That's an assumption, not a fact. I would encourage you to debate the issue instead of inserting ad hominem remarks that allude the point next time you are feeling emotional.

  • Jeff K
    Jeff K 5 years ago

    Paul never said we should just "let them die," he said family, friends, church groups, and community organizations should be there to help them. Here's a guy who's actually given a lot of his time helping those in need. How many of you can say the same? People making a big fucking deal out of this are obviously just hearing what they want to hear. Maybe you should spend less time making inane comments on YouTube videos and get out and do some good in the world.

  • Jade
    Jade 5 years ago

    Those teahadists want a smaller government and low taxes when in reality, they think that the government should serve them and them alone.

  • LadyLiberty1885
    LadyLiberty1885 5 years ago

    I like how everyone assumes the person(s) who yelled and cheered were either GOP or Tea Partiers and not some of the Ronulins. You are well trained MSM lapdogs.

  • Andrew Ross
    Andrew Ross 5 years ago

    This country can't afford to maintain a welfare state anymore. The dollar has been devalued by 50% in the last 11 years. Why do you think gas and food prices are going up? Cause are dollar isn't as strong as it once was, thus when we buy oil from the middle east we have to pay more. It's simple really and Ron Paul understands it. The governments a big mess wasting our money and it needs to end.

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