Glock 34 vs. S&W M&P Pro Series (Part 1)

My desktop thoughts about the Glock 34 as compared to the Smith & Wesson M&P Pro Series. Both are outstanding firearms and traditionally I've held the Glock 34 in very high regard. I've wanted to add one to my inventory for quite a while now but recently I've been comparing the Glock to another practical option. These are my desktop thoughts and Part 2 will be the shooting session.

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Author 1celts79 (2 years)
Glocks are excellent - but I don't like their sites, I don't like the
squared slides. Glock needs to redesign their weapons from stem to stern,
cut the slide weight and rework the frames (never mind the G4 crap). But
like all companies they take the attitude of "it's selling" so why change

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
Congrats bud! Quite normal on most firearms of similar design. The top
round contacts the bottom of the inside of the slide, sometimes even
denting the case mouth slightly. I won't hurt anything though.

Author Patriot36 (1 year)
It might be helpful to read SSPH's very first comment since it didn't seem
like he was ruling anything out. He simply stated that he shot both, did
better with the (near stock) glock so stuck with it. You might have taken
it to the next level by labeling that a "terrible comparison." I'm not
taking sides but looking at it objectively, that was probably were it went :)

Author Patriot36 (3 years)
@gtrmusic69 Already used one "next time" This time was the exception.

Author MrDeathbat321 (3 years)
sucks because you cant even buy an M&P pro 9mm in new jersey. >:(

Author doluseb (1 year)
Then you're still not listening. I said the Apex is just nice to have, and
accomplishes fixing the problems with the MP trigger while not having to
"gunsmith". You can accomplish the same thing the apex does for free. I
have done it. It's much better than the glock trigger, and it's FREE

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
Perhaps you'll enlighten us with a video pointing out all of the "crappy"
built characteristics of a M&P Pro Series and the specific reasoning from
your standpoint. I suspect it would be quite interesting.

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
@FloridaRaider You mean like your TV?

Author Alex G (2 years)
Being honest, I wanted an M&P9/40. I own a Sig 226 Elite, so it would just
be another toy. I'd always favor my Sig to a Glock or M&P. At the range, I
saw a guy with an M&P9, so I got to talking with him and offered him to
shoot my Sig if I could shoot his M&P. One magazine of Federal FMJ jammed
once (stovepipe). Second experience was with a M&P40 on a different trip.
Gun jammed so bad on factory ammo, It needed to go to a gunsmith. I've
owned a Glock 22, never jammed. Same with the 226.

Author FloridaRaider (2 years)
buy American

Author LKN4WAR (1 year)
Glock shouldn't have dicked with the design of the 17. TNPers have seen
those vids, why change it. I prefer Hk over all others. But 60 bucks a mag
is just steep verus glock . Own both and like looks of the MP also. I like
the Vtac model.

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
"Where is it?" Probably in gun stores or different video reviews. You may
have noted this video is a year and a half old. Also, it wasn't intended to
compare every long slide pistol, only the two most similar and asked about
types at the time.

Author Castleknight (2 years)
Was there a part 2 done?

Author Daniel Stein (3 years)
@zeusmanfl check out this company called Robar Companies, can
send in your weapon and they can coat the interior/exterior of ALL parts
giving them an ultimate super durable finish...lifetime very
interested in their work

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
Well, sounds like it's the only gun on the planet....for you.

Author falcon02012 (2 years)
S&W M&P9 PRO far more superior than Glock. the only problem with with S&W
is with the marketing department they need to learn from Glock.

Author Patriot36 (1 year)
Hey dude, no one said you did. Read my comment again. I was saying that you
were being quite reasonable with your initial post. Doluseb is being
hyperbolic and You SilentService, don't seem to understand anyone even when
they're giving you the benefit of the doubt. He eased up, why don't you.

Author SilentServicePH (1 year)
You did not say anywhere else before this that you accomplished the Apex
trigger feel for FREE. Never did so yeah make yourself more clear next
time. Polishing and doing a trigger job thats like buying a new trigger are
two completely different things. Yes, you mentioned a trigger job but you
didn't compare it to buying the Apex trigger.

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
Glad it helped buddy! I still love 'em both and don't know which I'd take
if I could only have one.

Author coltstang123 (3 years)
@BruteStrength55 Ya that is BULL SHIT. You would have to be an idiot to let
your firearm "rust solid". It would take months and months for that to
happen. And the M&P has a stainless steel slide and barrel.... you sir. Are
an idiot Glock fanboy.

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
@eusousoeu Wow! That's terribly expensive. I wish that you were able to
enjoy them for less money.

Author RandyClose69 (2 years)
I love my M&P pro 9mm, but I hate that front fiber optic sight. Novak is
installing sights on my 1911. After I get that back form them, I am sending
off the M&P for different sights. My next pistol will be a M&P 45. Big

Author JustonianInstitute (1 year)
I love Glocks. My Glock 19 is my go-to concealed gun. I had a 34 as well as
a 26. Still in the market for a 17. I love the fact that my 17 and 33 round
mags work great in the 19, 26 and the 34. I like how simple Glocks are and
I don't mind a Glock trigger. My big hands also didn't mind the 2x4 ergos
of my Glocks...until I got a M&P Pro 9 (5"). I can't put it down. Did the
Apex FSS job. Now the trigger is gtg. Quite accurate as well. Stellar
ergonomics though...will get a compact next.

Author ComradeSn1P3r (1 year)
I really want to like the M&Ps, but the trigger just doesn't work for me.

Author Patriot36 (3 years)
@DutchKid121 Neither. Both have identical trigger safeties just like many
other designs, but again the safeties will not prevent the gun from firing
"in the wrong hands." If the trigger is pulled the fun will fire. The
safeties are only designed to reduce the chance of an accident when the
pistol is in the right hands. An analogy would be the example of an
automobile that has ABS or stability control. The operator still has to
operate the vehicle responsibly.

Author tacoma200 (3 years)
Good review...

Author 0xXAllForNothingXx0 (1 year)
my m&p pro 40 came with trijicon illuminated sights, why does yours have
the fibreoptic sights i wonder?

Author SgtSplatter782 (2 years)
I've shot both and to me I just like the feel of the Glock trigger better.
To take nothing away from the M&P it is an outstanding gun It just doesn't
feel right in my hands and pivot point of the trigger just seems to me a
failure waiting to happen. Call me old fashioned but I prefer my trigger to
be one solid piece.

Author GLOCKATTACK10mm (1 year)
This is an excellent 9mm. I highly recommend it. I am a Glock man and I
like this even better. Note to people who do not understand:The lever on
side is "NOT" a slide release! It is a Slide "LOCK" you need to pull back
the slide just a small amount "THEN" release the "LOCK" lever! Crazy
accurate in the right hands. Lifetime Warranty! I sell guns, buy it, you
will be Satisfied...Guaranteed !

Author tnoutdoors9 (3 years)
Very helpful review, thanks. Appreciate the comparison to the G34 as I
owned a few of those at one time, and have some Glocks in the house now.

Author doluseb (1 year)
What makes you think you can't do the same thing to the M&P seer and
trigger. Mine is polished and ground to 3 lb crisp. The 100 dollar trigger
is just nice to have and very well done. Plus it makes it easier for those
who don't want to do any "gunsmithing"

Author DoubleTapLasVegas (2 years)
Not true, most police officers can get out shot by active citizen shooters.
I know more about most firearms than most officers.

Author vdub5818 (2 years)
@woodsmith9 If you want to talk ultimate reliability look no further than
hk my friend. Damn good camera work considering its all handheld.

Author SilentServicePH (1 year)
Its not difficult. You said try the M&P with the apex trigger. My point is
that it still wouldn't make it a fair comparison. I understand you
position, I just think its shit.

Author eusousoeu (2 years)
@tommygunm1a1 Nice ... I'm from Brazil , here one Glock cost 5.000 R$ (
$2.500 )

Author SilentServicePH (1 year)
So to make it fair I have to add a $100 trigger upgrade to the M&P while
the Glock had a $15 dollar part and was polished with brass-o. I think I
had a good comparison but thanks.

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
Everyone has a favorite, none of it means anything whatsoever. "Ultimate"
probably not the one that isn't working. HK's get mailed back for warranty
work just as any other pistol. That stated, they're generally high quality
firearms among the top with regards to reliability.

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
Either of the first two. The PX4 just feels slightly clumsy and inelegant
to me personally but it's a quality handgun.

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
@theblackkknight1 Well stated...

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
First off dude, grab onto a hint of reality before getting so excited. I
clearly state that I love BOTH pistols. In fact, I've been shooting glocks
since the 1st generation. You're 26 which means Ive got about 20 years of
shooting on you if you started the same time. Also, they're called
malfunctions, not "jams" and we'll wait for you to post your competition
videos. One pattern that's always constant is how emotional new shooters
get about their guns. Hang, in there bud, you'll grow out of it.

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
@FloridaRaider I don't disagree with what you've just stated. I'm a patriot
and try to purchase American made products where possible. I'm just not
sure that buying S&W over Glock is the 'turn around' that America needs.
The phrase "help fix" is relative and even if a thousand S&Ws sell it's
like a fart in a windstorm. What we really need is political leaders like
you and I, instead of corrupt career maniacs. Then we need strict trade
restriction policies especially with China.

Author rdsii64 (2 years)
@theblackkknight1 The comp shooters who shoot IDPA keep their guns stock
per the rules. IPSC shooters shoot shoot production class also keep their
guns stock per the rules.

Author DutchKid121 (3 years)
Wait, you didn't talk about the safeties, like if you have kids in the
house or something, (and careless people leave their guns out), which on
would have been better?

Author Patriot36 (2 years)
@skibolo1234 "the best" seems like a very inexperienced claim to me. Even
if the M&P takes two more seconds to field strip, what makes that the end
all measure of a combat handgun? Sure, glocks are nice but many others are
nice as well. We really strive for intelligent and well reasoned discussion
on the channel so if you'd consider that next time before posting, it would
be appreciated.

Author Jerry Wings (2 years)
You can get fiber-optic sights for the Glock-34/9mm.

Author Patriot36 (3 years)
@neangler Awesome bro! Congrats!!!

Author JustonianInstitute (1 year)
One other huge benefit to me of the M&P versus Glock. The beaver tail. I
have a permanent scar from being bitten by my 19 and the 34 when I had it.
Large hands plus a high hold are a bad combo for a Glock owner. I have the
after market beaver tail on my 19 and it works but I like the fact that the
M&P was designed for those of us with man sized hands. It was also good to
see that Glock has a large beaver tail backstrap available for Gen 4. So
far, no slide bite from my M&P.

Author Chris Johnson (2 years)
I own a glock 35 which is the .40 cal version, i've put 2 to 3,000 rounds +
through it and it has never jammed one time! my m &p which is not pro just
regular has jammed twice with less rounds.. oh and if the front site breaks
off, which ive never had happen buy a fricken new one. Would you rather
question your guns ability to fire or know the only think you have to worry
about it a site breaking off which will probably never happen. I also shoot
competition and, ive never broken it off.

Author raffy1ca (2 years)
Great in depth video!

Author Patriot36 (1 year)
For the sake of being accurate in our terms. 3.5lb disconnect, doesn't mean
that it's a 3.5lb trigger pull. It's typically 4.5-5.5lb. The M&P weighs in
a about 4.5lbs as well. The glock has a springy wall but better reset. The
M&P as a more solid way but softer reset. It's totally subjective as to
which is best but I find it a little easier to train a new shooter with the
more conventional trigger in the m&p. Just wanted to make that point about
the trigger weights...

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